Night owls

October 19th, 2013
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Marriage Equality USA plans to deploy gay rights advocates on the mainland for telephone banks targeting Hawaii on Thursday.

The New York based group is trying to mobilize supporters of marriage equality in Hawaii before the special session on a gay marriage bill this month.

From MEUSA:

Marriage Equality USA’s National Equality Action Team (NEAT) will be mobilizing out­-of-state marriage equality volunteers from the Western states as well as night owls from other states to staff phone banks to call likely supporters in Hawaii during a national “night of action” on Thursday, October 24th starting at 7:30 p.m. PT/10:30 p.m. ET. Volunteers can sign up to participate in the October 24th night of action or other NEAT actions at the NEAT website.

16 Responses to “Night owls”

  1. Eric Ryan:

    Shouldn't they be calling the Moana Surfrider instead in order to start booking weddings and room nights so Hawaii can start getting the promised net increase in zillions of dollars from gay/lesbian/transvestite weddings?? After all, the strategically timed "study" from UH said that mainland homosexuals would be calling Hawaii to make reservations which would profit Hawaii's economy, not calling at all hours to influence our politics.


  2. Gerald de Heer:

    When Marriage Equality passes; they will be.


  3. kamaaina808:

    So, we have mainlanders who don't know Hawaii at all, pushing to change Hawaii's laws - great. /sarcasm


  4. Nala007:

    @Kamaaina808- Actually, New Jersey based National Organization for Marriage (NOM) is currently running anti-gay, anti-marriage equality ads in Hawaii. Colorado based Focus on the Family was running paid robocalls against the marriage equality bill.
    What's good for the goose is good for the gander.


  5. Eric Ryan:

    When it comes to the "goose" and the "gander", thankfully we don't have to worry about two ganders trying to fool mother nature in some perverted fashion which spills over into changing the laws governing fowl. Ganders understand they get together with geese and NOT fellow ganders.


  6. kamaaina808:

    @Nala007 - Difference is they're not trying to change Hawaii's laws - they're supporting them.


  7. Especially Incognito:

    Keep mainland politics on the mainland.

    Wait for it. Wait for it. The Civil Authority group
    to honk their way in. Honk, Honk.
    Most of the Gay advocates are already on Island,
    waiting for that "special" moment.

    Sad that
    many who got married also got divorced. It was a novel
    idea that wasn't fun once they got it. Law can agree to
    marriage but there is no law covering when one divorces.
    Hissy fits in court.


  8. Especially Incognito:

    You forgot the "d" in MEUSA.

    People took over the word gay.
    Now they are Night Owls.
    Equality? Doesn't make those wiser.
    Just using big words to show they think they are.
    I couldn't give them a "hoot", giving them
    "special" treatment is not equality.


  9. Kolea:

    I can understand why national groups on both sides want to weigh in on this issue. But this phone-banking proposal demonstrates Marriage Equality USA doesn't know what the heck to o an rather than do something which may require a more nuanced appreciation of actual conditions in Hawaii, they take the easy route and mobilize people to phonebank. I seriously doubt anyone involved with the local efforts to pass marriage equality has encouraged them to do this. It is DUMB, DUMB, DUMB. Worse than ineffective, it is more likely to be counter-productive. What legislator is going to be impressed by out-of-state calls? Seriously? Most legislators on't even care about calls and emails from people outside their district, which is why the rightwing effort to flood the offices with phonecalls from born-again homophobes is so ineffective.

    But out-of-state? Worse than ineffective. DUMB!


  10. innocent observer:

    they are a national organization favoring marriage equality, so don't believe it is dumb, dumb. don't national organizations do get involved in local issues, especially when they are backing the issues? any thinking otherwise is foolish and naïve.


  11. Nala007:

    @ Kolea et al: Hold on folks. You are assuming that the phone banking is to legislators. My guess is that they are calling Hawaii residents and encouraging them to call their legislators. This is EXACTLY what our opponents are doing, only instead of live people, they are doing robocalls from Colorado!

    @ Kamaaina808- mainland politics? Come on. Firstly, the marriage equality movement BEGAN right here in Hawaii with the 1993 Baehr v Lewin ruling of the Hawaii Supreme Court. Secondly, trying to discredit something by labeling it "mainland" is standard operating procedure here when you don't have a sound argument.


  12. kamaaina808:

    @Nala007 - I didn't call it 'mainland politics' - you did.


  13. Kolea:

    Nala007,

    OK, if that is what they are doing, it is not DUMB, DUMB, DUMB, but SMART, SMART, SMART.

    Now that you have corrected me, maybe I might move a little closer to being smart as well. Thanks!


  14. Nala007:

    @Kolea - I am sure that is what they are doing.

    @Kamaaina808 - you are correct, you did NOT use the term "mainland politics" (I did) but you did make an issue out of the fact that this is a mainland organization.

    Mainlanders understand what is at stake here.
    We must recognize that the issue of marriage equality doesn't exist in a vacuum. It is a national movement. What happens in one states does impact the movement as a whole. The mainland "movement" does have a vested interest in what occurs here in Hawaii. Plus many of these mainland organizations have thousands of members in Hawaii. I am local and am a member of HRC, Freedom to Marry, and Lambda Legal, all national groups. I support them with my financial donations, as I do local groups such as Equality Hawaii. I expect them all to be contributing to this effort.

    By the way, NJ based National Organization for Marriage is now running anti-gay ads on Hawaii television stations. I heard some were on KITV this morning.


  15. Especially Incognito:

    Some transplants think they are local
    but transplants have roots from the mainland.
    Keep it there.

    Is mainlander the same as one without breath?
    Seems without air or lots of wind behind it. Anything
    not of Hawaii is the mainland or another country. Foreign like
    in Canada.

    You have to be not able to speak or hear to be dumb.
    Mute. Other than that one is not as smart since confused
    on what it is.


  16. Peleke:

    I just spoke with a NEAT organizer, who told me they would not be calling Hawaii, because the Campaign here in Hawaii asked them not to do it.


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