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Fear factor

September 13th, 2014

Violent crime in Hawaii has significantly declined over the past decade. Gun registration, meanwhile, has reached record levels.

But the conservative Hawaii Republican Assembly apparently sees a different picture.

In an email to supporters on Saturday -- entitled Code Blue: RAMPANT CRIME in the Disarmed and Defenseless Aloha State -- the conservatives assert that Hawaii's restrictive gun laws failed to prevent several violent crimes, including a murder, carjacking and rape.

Yes, Hawaii’s anti-gun laws did not stop either the armed or the unarmed criminals from committing felonies.  But Hawaii’s gun control laws do play an enormous role in restricting citizens from engaging in self-defense.  In addition, these same restrictive gun laws also prevent passers-by from being able to do their part in helping to make law-abiding people safer from dangerous criminals.  Good Samaritans must walk around just as vulnerable and unarmed as crime victims.

Try to imagine living in a community in which criminals had to worry long and hard about whom might be prepared for self-defense.  Instead, Hawaii politicians force us to live in a world in which criminals know that defenseless people have no hope of police showing up before they have committed their crimes and are long gone.

HIRA's breathless warnings were not in response to any new data on violent crime, gun registration, or the effectiveness of the state's gun laws.

The HIRA email is a sales pitch to advertise a Nov. 8 appearance in Hawaii by the president of the National Rifle Association.

13 Responses to “Fear factor”

  1. innocent observer:

    a bunch o malarkey. restrictive gun policies do reduce the number of violent crimes. most violent crimes are committed not necessarily by criminals but mentally ill people. less guns mean that these unstable people do not have ready access to a gun.

  2. OldPro:

    "... fewer guns … "

  3. Manoa Kahuna:

    OMG these people are real loony tunes.

  4. John Coontas:

    Hmmm...fewer violent crimes in Hawaii and record gun registrations. Good correlation. Derrick you just "shot" yourself in the opening line. Give people more guns...less crime. Now imagine giving people better capability to carry guns...even less crime.

    Mentally ill people...to address the mopes who wrote in, obtain their guns illegally or steal them from people who have them legally. How about let's pay more attention to mentally ill people. Don't disenfranchise someone's rights to protect themselves just because liberal courts and mental docs loose messed up people into our society.

  5. Chicken Grease:

    BS, all of you. The answer is:

    • Strengthen/mental health laws (bring back locking some of them up/remove them from society)

    • Loosening HI's restrictive CONCEALED CARRY rules (strange that NONE of you advocated this brilliant idea); make evildoers sweat.

    The end for now.

  6. Andy Parx:

    I'm far more worried about those that are "prepared for self-defense" than anyone else.

  7. Chicken Grease:

    Andy Parx:
    September 15th, 2014 at 1:47 pm
    I'm far more worried about those that are "prepared for self-defense" than anyone else.

    Why? There has been no mass shooting by someone who possessed a concealed carry permit. This is what the Left leaves out when they want you get all emotional about the issues.

    The guns are out there. The only hope is to make the criminals — sane, insane, all of 'em — wonder just like how the rest of us wonder.


  8. Ted Baker:

    There have been no mass shootings by anyone with a concealed carry permit in Hawaii because there are only a handful issued statewide. That doesn't mean we won't have more shootings, including unjustified ones (road rage, etc.), if we have concealed carry laws, even if we don't have any mass shootings.

  9. Ted Baker:

    Byran Uesugi did not have a concealed carry permit. As I recall, he had a lawfully acquired and registered pistol. He lived on "Easy Street" (really) in Nuuanu and apparently had no problem obtaining the pistol. Go figure.

  10. Ted Baker:

    Oh, and a concealed carry permit would not have been necessary for one or more of his co-workers to possess a firearm at their place of business that they could have used in self-defense. By law, firearms may be possessed at one's place of residence, business, or "sojourn" and transported -- unloaded -- between those places, and to/from others such as a firing range, gun show, police department, etc., provided they are unloaded and in an enclosed container. Of course, one's employer may have a different policy regarding firearms in the workplace.

  11. Eric:

    While I don't feel the need to carry a gun here, there are places that I like to go, where being armed, can be a comfort.
    One place, a scene from the movie deliverance comes to mind, when I was looking for a gas station in a very remote area.
    Because of our laws there is no reciprocal agreements, which creates a major inconvenience and quite frankly, put's Hawaii's citizens lives potentially at risk.

  12. Dillon Trotter:

    Ted Baker: "There have been no mass shootings by anyone with a concealed carry permit in Hawaii because there are only a handful issued statewide. That doesn't mean we won't have more shootings, including unjustified ones (road rage, etc.), if we have concealed carry laws, even if we don't have any mass shootings."

    Ted, Since Florida enacted non-discretionary conceal and carry laws in 1987 and experienced significant reduction in violent crimes, gradually most of the nation has adopted non-discretionary conceal and carry. 43 States now have it and each has had the same experience. Your gut feeling that shootings would increase are not reality. Mass shootings drop by the highest percentage of all violent crimes. Illinois is the most recent state to enact conceal and carry so you can watch their statistics in real time. Even though Illinois politicians are doing all they can to undermine the conceal and carry program, I anticpate that they will have the same experience as the 42 states that preceded them. Also note that none of the 43 states so far has regretted the decision to enact the program and then dismantled their conceal carry programs. So far there has been no "Buyer's Remorse"

    I am strongly in favor of non-discretionary conceal and carry in Hawaii. Citizens will be safer whether they choose to carry themselves or not. Criminals won't know which of us is carrying. It will shift their benefit versus risk decision making process. I have conceal and carry permits in other states. It has been similar to getting a driver's licence. You must study the laws, pass a written exam, pass a shooting, gun handling and safety practical test. If you have passing scores then you get the permit. Under this system, conceal carry permit holders when compared to the general population have been found to commit crimes 1/300th the incidence of the general population. (FBI Crime statistics). You should want to be around these people. They are the good guys.

  13. Ted Baker:

    Aloha, Dillon. I didn't say we *WOULD* have more shootings if we have more concealed carry, just that, with so few mass shootings here already (thankfully), concealed carry is not likely to reduce them further, without also contributing to some violence, often between those who know each other (e.g. drunken fights). We have almost no history of discretionary concealed carry, so the move to non-discretionary concealed can only put more guns in places they did not exist previously, and potentially escalate violent confrontations to lethal ones.

    In any event, we are also fortunate to NOT be Florida, altho' we seem to be sharing the same wiltingly hot, humid weather right now.

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